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07-25-2015, 11:26 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-26-2015, 10:38 AM by Bricks.)
why would i lie about somebody elses dmg? its shocking to me as well. i just got kicked out of my static today as a matter of fact for my dps being too low. all we have been doing is A1 savage, so on faust the mnk hitting around 1350, and on main boss the monk around 1300 after 3-4mins or so. i would be falling behind around 1100 and they said the last ninja was doing 1300-1400 and have been complaining im not touching the last ninja's dmg. these guys are super hardcore mind you, they raid 24hours a week and all have full i190 gear -1 maybe 2 pieces max. but i mean im pretty close at i186 and i have extremely fast connection.
after going back and looking at parses max was 1290 on faust and about 1200 on first 3-4mins of oppresser (this is using draconian pots as well)
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07-25-2015, 11:33 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-25-2015, 11:36 PM by Dino.)
(07-25-2015, 11:26 PM)Bricks Wrote: why would i lie about somebody elses dmg? its shocking to me as well. i just got kicked out of my static today as a matter of fact for my dps being too low. all we have been doing is A1 savage, so on faust the mnk hitting around 1350, and on main boss the monk around 1300 after 3-4mins or so. i would be falling behind around 1100 and they said the last ninja was doing 1300-1400 and have been complaining im not touching the last ninja's dmg. these guys are super hardcore mind you, they raid 24hours a week and all have full i190 gear -1 maybe 2 pieces max. but i mean im pretty close at i186 and i have extremely fast connection.
If you want max dps with your ninja you have to learn your perfect rotation which posted 100x on forum. Like you have to manage mudras on GCD....
Also, the bot hit 1.1k dps without doing nothing...thats very nice for a bot.
So, if you want play with max dps static, learn your class and the perfect rotation
>I only use the bot on roulett or farming something-on static i use my brain and get my max dps ^^
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07-26-2015, 10:15 AM
(This post was last modified: 07-26-2015, 10:34 AM by Bricks.)
we put alot of time and understanding we put into our profiles (months? years?) but in theory computer>human, no? it seems this has just about reached max potential/perfect rotation at least i would think. i thoguht filters were enough to cover the human aspect (saving CDs for certain times, etc) also for some jobs it deff seems like bot can better then a human. (healer / brd ?) over the year or so of using minion ive come to completely rely on it to the point of if i played my nin manually id prolly get like 900dps lol. maybe less since when nin came out i was already full-timing minion i dont think ive ever played it manually actually.
i'm not disagreeing with you i just surprized. how much dps can you hit playing manually? if its less then 100dps ill just use the bot lol. i was just under the impression that 1150 was max nin dps cuz of the max youtube vid parses on TD for each job, but i guess having 190 gear over 180 makes more difference then i thought. also what does this mean Manage Mudras on GCD?
also, i dida search for this "perfect rotation" all that came up was something about mudra delays using raiton>fuma etc. i was under impression that this profile was the "perfect rotation."
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07-26-2015, 12:08 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-26-2015, 12:10 PM by Angelol.)
I tried it now several times and also asked other ninja friends (US and EU)
they are pretty good ninjas and got BiS Gear possible until now (+a1s / a2s gear)
none of them ever reached constantly 1300-1400 DPS after 3-4 minutes of combat.
1200 DPS is extermly good - with a lot of Crit Luck and perfect raiton / barde song timing / dragoon buff you might reach ~max 1300 but you have to get a really lucky try here.
If you're able to send me the parses of their especially extremely mega OP ninja, pls send me :)
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(07-26-2015, 12:08 PM)Angelol Wrote: I tried it now several times and also asked other ninja friends (US and EU)
they are pretty good ninjas and got BiS Gear possible until now (+a1s / a2s gear)
none of them ever reached constantly 1300-1400 DPS after 3-4 minutes of combat.
1200 DPS is extermly good - with a lot of Crit Luck and perfect raiton / barde song timing / dragoon buff you might reach ~max 1300 but you have to get a really lucky try here.
If you're able to send me the parses of their especially extremely mega OP ninja, pls send me :)
With BiS gear, without food, I've been parsing around 850-900 stable DPS, and around 1000~1100 bursts when crits land. There is no way anyone is doing 1300 DPS.
Your old profile on old skill manager is superior to anything else out there right now.
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07-26-2015, 06:47 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-26-2015, 07:01 PM by Angelol.)
850-900? @ dummy?
then smth is not working right for you.
if im using my profile @ dummy it does ~1100 DPS...
~1300-1400 DPS opener.
But anyway - we are talking about MANUALLY DPS - without bot. and even there 1300 constant DPS is impossible.
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With the bot I can 3m parse 1150 dps easy.
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07-26-2015, 08:19 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-26-2015, 08:23 PM by Bricks.)
(07-26-2015, 12:08 PM)Angelol Wrote: I tried it now several times and also asked other ninja friends (US and EU)
they are pretty good ninjas and got BiS Gear possible until now (+a1s / a2s gear)
none of them ever reached constantly 1300-1400 DPS after 3-4 minutes of combat.
1200 DPS is extermly good - with a lot of Crit Luck and perfect raiton / barde song timing / dragoon buff you might reach ~max 1300 but you have to get a really lucky try here.
If you're able to send me the parses of their especially extremely mega OP ninja, pls send me :)
ur pretty much on point with the highest being 2:31 1281.66 (me 1077)
others: 2:49 1228.72 (me 1003)
2:57 1214.01 (me 1024.09)
3:17 1181.08 (me 1016.73)
this is all faust. im not sure how to send them but if u dont trust my word why should i even take time out of my day to help you. also who wants to make themself look weak? they were prolly using ur profile too and just using better pots and had better gear lol for all i know.
bard song. no dragoon.
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(07-26-2015, 06:47 PM)Angelol Wrote: 850-900? @ dummy?
then smth is not working right for you.
if im using my profile @ dummy it does ~1100 DPS...
~1300-1400 DPS opener.
But anyway - we are talking about MANUALLY DPS - without bot. and even there 1300 constant DPS is impossible.
Not on a dummy, this is typically in combat without food. Because of the need to move around AoE I do less damage than you would on a dummy. I dont parse on a dummy because it's not real world expectation. And when I do use food it's for skill speed+ for DOT increases. Depend son what food is available.
But I've never seen anyone pull 1300 stable DPS with BiS anyway.
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Still a little buggy, seems to be dropping it as soon as 1st mudra for a chain (namely Raiton) is started and won't continue. sometimes, it will attempt to restart Suiton causing bunnies...
