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Noticed the issue yesterday as well with dancing edge taking priority over armor crush when I moved into flank positional in under 15 seconds on huton. Mildly frustrating.
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I'm having issues with Haru while testing on sephi ex test dummy. it will allow for armor crush to refresh huton once early on in the engagement, but anytime after that initial armor crush it flat refuses to do it anymore, also it keeps using dancing edge even though i have it turned off on the toggle. i believe someone made mention of some suggestions about timing conditions to force armor crush that are in easy ninja profile as well, i'd agree it's useful to have something like that in as well.
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Ran VA today at last boss; the profile just went to spam mutilate/shadowfang. Tried reloading the bot and the problem still persisted. I'll continue to observe for now
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(04-20-2016, 01:15 AM)iDownload Wrote: Ran VA today at last boss; the profile just went to spam mutilate/shadowfang. Tried reloading the bot and the problem still persisted. I'll continue to observe for now
I'm getting exact same problem, keep spamming shadowfang / multilate :(
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(04-20-2016, 10:00 AM)rafale101 Wrote: (04-20-2016, 01:15 AM)iDownload Wrote: Ran VA today at last boss; the profile just went to spam mutilate/shadowfang. Tried reloading the bot and the problem still persisted. I'll continue to observe for now
I'm getting exact same problem, keep spamming shadowfang / multilate :(
If I may - this is a common issue that stems from how FFXIV stores dots on mobs and in memory. There is a cap to the number of status effects that will show up client side. While the dots may be on the enemies, if the number of status effects surpasses this threshold the will not be written into client memory and only be handled server side. If your characters dots are something that show up on the boss after this limit is reached, there will be no way for Minion to monitor the remaining time on these dots and will see them as not applied and try to reapply.
This is something that has happened since day one and, unless Square decides to transmit ALL boss status effects to client side for display you're going to have to deal with, regardless of the profile in use.
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You shouldn't still be having Huton refresh issues on V2. Have tested it extensively so I can't see how it would still be an issue. Dancing Edge can only be turned off to the extent that it would be stupid not to use it. It is a DPS loss to not use it from the front if you can't hit the positional, so the toggle is not always 100% off. Like AzRed said the raid bosses have some issues with dot spam since, but I might be able to provide a workaround.
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(04-21-2016, 02:02 AM)Ace Wrote: You shouldn't still be having Huton refresh issues on V2. Have tested it extensively so I can't see how it would still be an issue. Dancing Edge can only be turned off to the extent that it would be stupid not to use it. It is a DPS loss to not use it from the front if you can't hit the positional, so the toggle is not always 100% off. Like AzRed said the raid bosses have some issues with dot spam since, but I might be able to provide a workaround.
it is also a DPS loss if you have a warrior to put the slashing debuff up for you and still use DE. and V2 still currently has issues refreshing huton when i test on stone,sea,sky test dummies.
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When can we expect an update? just wondering cause on my side its barely useable with trials
Used to work fine though, not sure what happened
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It's not a DPS loss from using DE from the front if you can't hit your positional. All your alternatives cost you potency, and you end up with a slashing debuff either way, so please explain to me how it could lose DPS? I've yet to see any theorycrafting support this..
The only situation I could think of is if you have an upcoming phase change and you'll end up coincidentally dropping Huton, which is incidentally the only way I can see Huton being dropped currently.. could that be true? Or do you see some other way Huton is being dropped for you?
I should mention that if you are seeing yourself get low on Huton, and there is a phase coming up that will cause you a hard time refreshing with AC, you should stick to the flank to force a refresh.
The profile has to perform a balancing act of cutting buffs close enough to maximize DPS, but with enough leeway to allow for weird phase gaps, so some manual management of this effort is required.
This same logic is true for AE, in that if you are good on all your buffs, you need to move to the rear in order to perform AE.
I have been out of town all week, but I was cooking up a solution for debuffs/dots all week, and it will be up as soon as I can implement and re-test (and get somebody to push the update).
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(04-24-2016, 09:10 PM)Ace Wrote: It's not a DPS loss from using DE from the front if you can't hit your positional. All your alternatives cost you potency, and you end up with a slashing debuff either way, so please explain to me how it could lose DPS? I've yet to see any theorycrafting support this..
The only situation I could think of is if you have an upcoming phase change and you'll end up coincidentally dropping Huton, which is incidentally the only way I can see Huton being dropped currently.. could that be true? Or do you see some other way Huton is being dropped for you?
I should mention that if you are seeing yourself get low on Huton, and there is a phase coming up that will cause you a hard time refreshing with AC, you should stick to the flank to force a refresh.
The profile has to perform a balancing act of cutting buffs close enough to maximize DPS, but with enough leeway to allow for weird phase gaps, so some manual management of this effort is required.
This same logic is true for AE, in that if you are good on all your buffs, you need to move to the rear in order to perform AE.
I have been out of town all week, but I was cooking up a solution for debuffs/dots all week, and it will be up as soon as I can implement and re-test (and get somebody to push the update). Well i meant it was a DPS loss, because typically you should not be in front of the monster in the situation of you having a warrior to put the debuff up for you. imo the toggle should be a hard switch off to not use it, and in the scenario i'm describing for the huton loss, it's during a test dummy trial at stone,sea,sky so there is no phase shift to worry about. for me haru is able to refresh huton one time, and then i can sit on flank position the rest of the time and it will spam regular combo + DE from the rear as well. it flat out will not refresh huton for me after the first refresh.
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